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Publié : mer. 09 mai 2007, 13:24
par Jade Von Memeth
Wow, la bouche, le cou, les sourcils, la taille : tout est moche chez lui ou quoi
Il a pas le charisme de Crocodile çui-là ! J'imagine qu'"être méchant" rime pas toujours avec "être classe" =___=. Dommage, son nom était vachement bien trouvé.
Publié : mer. 09 mai 2007, 13:28
par Leonheart
Publié : mer. 09 mai 2007, 13:54
par Itachi-san
Mais lol quoi, Moria a la même bouche que Kokoro
Non vraiment rien qu'à sa tête il est pas crédible une seconde comme méchant >_< Même Mr.2 avait plus de classe -__-''
Publié : mer. 09 mai 2007, 13:55
par guiguizmo
Le mechant le plus pathetique tout manga confondu!
Publié : mer. 09 mai 2007, 14:37
par Leonheart
Il ne faut pas exagerer non plus, il correspond a l'arc "délire" qui est en cours. Il suffit de voir Foxy pendant le Davy Back Fight, qui etait dans le meme style.
Bon apres il est vrai que ca choque, il a du passer par les mains de Hoback lui aussi, mais on va s'y habituer comme toujours avec Oda

Publié : mer. 09 mai 2007, 14:40
par Flyers
Nan, mais franchement cet arc c'est du n'importe quoi.
Je le trouve vraiment nul, le meilleur truc qu'on ait vu, c'est Brook qui defonce l'araignée. Mais les mechants ont aucun style, je me suis pas marré une seule fois depuis le slip de Franky.
Publié : mer. 09 mai 2007, 18:42
par Aka-Kage
Voilà le script
455話 王下七武海ゲッコー・モリア
Chapter 455 King of the Depths: The Shichibukai, Gekko Moria
Front Piece: Enel’s Space Epic vol. 22 “Revenge of the Doctor!! A time when men must do what men must do” The space pirates and 4 other guys stand blocking his way
Starting from where Talaran is beheaded
Talaran: ….ahhh!!
Franky: Not yet, the guy you beheaded is a zombie.. he’s still standing
Talaran: you…… hm? Wait!!? aren’t you…
Brook: YOHOHO… don’t worry… I’ll deal with it
Franky: Deal with it?
Brook: even Zombies have a weak point!
Talaran: Ah..ahhh..ahh!! AHHHHH!!!
Something black comes out from Talaran’s mouth
Franky: what the hell is that!!
Brook: That’s the zombie’s soul...
Franky …soul!? but it just came out right before our eyes..
Brook: now, return!! to the master of the depths!!!
Zombies: gyaahh!! Talaran-Taichou* (*captain)!!! Taichou!!! Taichou is down!!!
Franky: You completely stopped him…. what did you do!?
Brook: I purified him.
Zombies: Look!! There’s no doubt… that’s… Hanauta!!! That’s the guy who came to Thriller Bark 5 years ago and screwed everything up!!! We have to go report to the master!!!
The Zombies run away
Brook: ah… this spider’s thread is strong against a sword but weak to fire.
Franky: yeah, it’s melting (erupting flames melt the thread). Mugiwara and the others were kidnapped!! You know a lot about this island, don’t you…
Brook: Yes, but… what should I say… if they’ve already been captured, the possibility is high that it’s too late..
Franky: Whaat!!? too late!?
Brook: w… well, don’t yell at me please, I’ll get confused!! Because I’m a skeleton I don’t have any face after all.. YOHOHO!! SKULL JOKE!!! (note: this _is¬_ a pun in Japanese, note the same kanji 面 for face in the two words there)
Franky has a priceless face on – he looks like he’s about to attack Brook
Robin: Cut it out, he’s already dead (Robin makes a joke!?! omg)
Brook: …anyway listen to me without messing around. It’s just like I tried to tell you on the ship, but was unable to steer you away when I began wandering around on this sea dozens of years ago… I thought I wanted to escape the demon of this ocean.. my rudder was broken and I was carried about on the tides endlessly.
Then by chance… a little more than 5 years ago probably, just like it did to you and your crew, Thriller Bark called out to me
Wanting to escape the Demon Triangle no matter what, I walked around on this island looking for parts to fix the rudder, but all that I found was simply monsters and Zombies. Eventually, I was captured and brought to this building, together with one of the Dancers who I had seen during the fight
He was carried off and what they called his dead body was patched up. As I looked over towards him I saw a frightening giant had appeared
The man’s shadow was torn off!! It was amputated!!!
Franky: he…. amputated the shadow!?
Brook: before long I would fall to the same fate, but… the man whose shadow was taken fell in place.. whereas the shadow that was taken on the other hand was implanted into the unmoving corpse. and then.. it’s hard to explain…
what was just a corpse, or so I thought… started moving!!
Franky: What the hell!?
Brook: Well, the shadows… the person into which they are placed follow the movements of that soul…
the shadow you defeated… yes… essentially.. .souls will absolutely not change from when you are born to when they die.
That giant has the power to take your soul and alter that absolute rule.. he’s the king of the depths, Shichibukai Gekko Moria!!!
Franky: a Devil Fruit huh
Brook: He only needs a dead body and a shadow to bring forth a Zombie, but the greater danger here is the ferocity of the creatures Dr. Hogback puts together using his medicine, he has collected and resurrected legendary warriors from around the world…
and he has countless more stored away in his freezer!
Robin: Dr. Hogback… the famous surgeon… I can’t believe he’s been here, helping out pirates ever since the incident of his disappearance
Franky: But, well, the Zombies… they can move even though they haven’t been resurrected, right
Brook: Correct. The personality or the battle ability is completely transferred from the shadow’s owner
but the overall toughness is dependent upon the body’s physical strength. When a strong body is fused with a strong shadow, an even stronger Zombie warrior is born.
that’s why Moria is eagerly after those with bounties on their heads.
Franky: I see… that’s why he was after us.
Robin: So that’s the whole story of Thriller Bark…
The most common attribute among Moria’s Zombie is most likely their obedience. It would seem the more powerful warriors would have difficulty being so obedient.
Brook: Indeed…. he doesn’t need any shadows that are as strong as him who won’t listen to what he says for people that strong, he just throws them into the ocean once they lose consciousness
Franky: ehh!! Then he’s in danger!!!
Brook: It’s alright for now!! We have time. For now, I know the best way to proceed, so believe in me and follow what I do, please!!
The scene changes
Subordinates: Masterrr~~~!!! The three mysterious people have arrived!!
Moria: …they’re early… enter
The three mysterious people (Hogback, Absalom, Perona) arrive before Moria
Moria: oh, you guys came? kishishishi!! hurry up and make me the pirate king!! immediately!!!
King of the Depths, Shichibukai Gekko Moria. Original Bounty 320 Million Beri
Motto: Relying upon others for one’s own objective||Favorite phrase: You do it!!
The captured Luffy. Luffy within a cage.
Moria: What is the pirate king!! The one to become pirate king is me!!!
Luffy: Oi!!! Untie this string!!!
Usopp, Nami, Chopper, Sanji, Zoro… give ‘em all back!! Where’d they go!!!
Moria: Oi, Mugiwara no Luffy… you just put a lot of names in front of me… we’re only after three of your guys
the pirate hunter Zoro… and the other one I sent out search orders for is the blonde-haired guy
Luffy: hm? Blonde-Haired… must be Sanji….
Nami and the other two are inside Bearsy. The back zipper is up.
Chopper: Whaaat!? Hey, Sanji and Zoro were captured…
Usopp: no… no way… and Luffy was captured too!?
Nami: h… how did that monster trio get captured right off the bat?!
Hogback: what happened to those three, Perona! (Nami and the others).. the Risky Brothers were supposed to bring them…
Perona: They didn’t bring them to Bearsy. Didn’t they run away in the middle of the delivery!?
Usopp: um…
Perona: I told you not to open your mouth!!
Absalom: You’re too strict with Bearsy. But, among those three my bride seems to have caused a sort of rebellion in the middle of your garden.
….hm? hey wait a sec.. Hogback you asshole!! did you touch my bride!!?
Cindry: Your bride isn’t going to come
Absalom: What are you!! Cindry!
Hogback: oh…. hey, hey Cindry-chan.. you’re just making the conversation worse!! and why are you appearing in front of other people…
Cindry: She won’t come for you either.
Hogback: gehhh!!! that hurt!! I was absolutely not thinking that!!!
Moria: Cut it out Cut it out, all your complaining is bothering me!! If the pirates ran away, you guys can do something about it later!!!
I brought you all here now because we must commemorate our grand battle potential!!!
Subordinates: Master!! The pirate is trying to destroy the cage by eating it!!
Luffy: You captured me, now what are you going to do !!!!
Absalom: fufu… ( makes a pose like when he defeated Sanji)
Perona: Cut it out Absalom, I’ll stop you in the middle of this room!!
Luffy: You think you can capture me, idiot!?
Perona: Negative Hollow!! (The ghost flies after him)
Luffy: If I’m born again.. I want to become a sea cucumber… I want to die…
Absalom: A man who just said he wanted to become pirate king now wants to become a sea cucumber.. that’s brutal (sweating)
Luffy is tied up again
Moria: A light is hitting him!!!
Luffy: What are you doing… damnit… I remember you guys!!!
gashhhh (Moria grabs Luffy’s shadow and begins to extract it)
Luffy: whaaa.. huh!? What is that… my shadow!?
shiiiing!! (the sound of scissors cutting)
Luffy loses consciousness
Moria: fufufu…. kishishishishi
I’ve got it now!! The 300 Million fighting power!!! With this, the strongest zombie in all of history will be born!!!
end for this week
Publié : mer. 09 mai 2007, 18:48
par Kakashi_
Publié : mer. 09 mai 2007, 19:15
par ShikamonculHIHIHI
Moi c'est l'inverse j'adore cet arc une des meilleur pour moi, j'adore cette ambiance gloque et totalement déganté. par contre c'est vrai que Moria n'est pas le plus classe des méchant de l'histoire d'OP mais si il me fait autant rire que Foxy alors je lui pardonnerait sa sale geule ^^.
Publié : jeu. 10 mai 2007, 18:54
par Flyers
Publié : jeu. 10 mai 2007, 19:56
par zubrow'kakashi
Franchement je trouve bien cette arc :
Il est plus léger que le précédent est permet de ne pas retaper la guerre avec le gouvernement mondial
Mais surtout, je pense qu'on va pouvoir voir luffy se battre sans son pouvoir du fruit du démon... En effet, soit son zombie récupère ce pouvoir est du coup lui devra se battre sans. Soit le zombie le récupère pas et la on verra des techniques de luffy sans son fruit... A moins que les deux corps gardent le pouvoir du fruit et la ma théorie est foutu en l'air

Publié : jeu. 10 mai 2007, 20:05
par Samkuragi
De toute manière, ça prouve encore que ce n'est qu'un arc de Transition.
Les méchants ridicules font partie de l'univers OnePiece qui sait alterner le sérieux et le moins sérieux. En tout cas, c'est surtout la différence du CharaDesign après celui de EL qui laisse ce sentiment de moins bien.
Lucci->Moria
Kaku->Absalom (Il est pas si mauvais)
Khalifa->Perona (Lee travesti)
Voilà juste pour voir les différences niveau design, mais je pense que ça laisse entrevoir de grandes capacités pour Moria. Cet arc me semble le plus technique niveau combat, comment vont-ils s'en sortir?
Luffy va t'il se battre contre son ombre? Brook sera t'il celui qui va les sauver?
En tout cas une chose, le Zombi Luffy va être super dur à battre, t'as touché à mes bandages que m'a passé Shanks! AAAAAAAAAh!

Publié : ven. 11 mai 2007, 21:36
par D-kon
Pareil aussi pour moi,
je ne dl même pas les chapitres tellement je trouve ça lourd et l'humour sans plus

(Image et script suffisent pour se faire une idée >_<)
Certains comparent l'arc avec celui de Foxxy, c'est pas faux dans la mesure où c'est un arc de transition mais au moins Foxxy c'était pas très long et c'était plus marrant, là les zombies en plus des délits de sale gueule ça me fait pas du tout marrer...
Perso, vivement la fin de cet arc qu'on passe à autre chose de plus divertissant...
(Après l'arc du Skypea c'est le second arc où je me fais chier sévère

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Publié : dim. 13 mai 2007, 15:36
par Kydash
ca va moi j'aime bien cet arc. Un très bon arc de transition avant de repartir sur des choses plus sérieuses.
et ce bon vieu brook vaut le coup d'oeil.
D'ailleur l'arc skypia était bon en y regardant bien mais trainait plutot en longueur.
Publié : dim. 13 mai 2007, 19:57
par Itachi-san
Il servait surtout un peu à rien

Skypiea ou comment faire un arc de 7 tomes où le scenario avance pas d'un iota >_< Le tout suivi d'un arc de 2 tomes qui servait tout autant à rien... ah il nous avait fait un joli combo Oda à l'époque
Cet arc va pas durer trop longtemps je pense, surtout qu'y a pas de grand méchant à affronter (sauf si on considère Moria comme tel, mais le combat contre lui et son charisme d'huître risque pas d'être super passionnant

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