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D'un point de vue logique, les Naru/Hina et les Naru/Saku sont acceptables.
Subjectivement? Pour ma part, j'ai du mal à m'imaginer n'ot tête de blond soumis à une hystérique ayant la gachète, ou plutôt, le poing facile, quoiqu'en pense justement l'intéressé... A supposer qu'il y pense toujours sérieusement, hein.
Naruto et Hinata, pas ensemble? Il est vrai qu'on dit que qui se ressemble s'assemble, proverbe qui irai à un Naru/Saku, mais n'oublions pas que les contraires s'attirent, loi tout aussi bien valable en physique avec ce principe qu'est le magnétisme qu'en relations amoureuses ou l'attirance et l'admiration pour des vertus que l'on ne possède pas ont unis bien des couples... Et rappelons au passage que Hinata est attiré par Naruto justement par sa cappacité à ne pas abandonner facilement son intention d'être reconnu, contrairement à elle qui avait beaucoup de mal. Alors, Naru/Hina pas possible, je me demande bien en quoi.
Par contre, on a pas vraiment les mêmes goûts XD.
Smog, et banannée, meilleurs voeux à tous et tout ça au passage.
Subjectivement? Pour ma part, j'ai du mal à m'imaginer n'ot tête de blond soumis à une hystérique ayant la gachète, ou plutôt, le poing facile, quoiqu'en pense justement l'intéressé... A supposer qu'il y pense toujours sérieusement, hein.
Naruto et Hinata, pas ensemble? Il est vrai qu'on dit que qui se ressemble s'assemble, proverbe qui irai à un Naru/Saku, mais n'oublions pas que les contraires s'attirent, loi tout aussi bien valable en physique avec ce principe qu'est le magnétisme qu'en relations amoureuses ou l'attirance et l'admiration pour des vertus que l'on ne possède pas ont unis bien des couples... Et rappelons au passage que Hinata est attiré par Naruto justement par sa cappacité à ne pas abandonner facilement son intention d'être reconnu, contrairement à elle qui avait beaucoup de mal. Alors, Naru/Hina pas possible, je me demande bien en quoi.

Bienvenue au club, mon gars.Itachi-san a écrit :Vous devez vous dire je passe ma vie dans la section romance, mais j'y peut rien j'adore les romances moi, mon pseudo m'empêche pas d'être un grand sentimental XD

Tant que c'est pas un SkyBlog...Sakamoto a écrit :Et c'est quoi ton blog?
Smog, et banannée, meilleurs voeux à tous et tout ça au passage.
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Naru/Hina pourquoi pas. C'est le pairing canon par excellence, et c'est vrai que tout les deux ils seraient bien mimi, mais pour moi ça s'arrête là, je trouve ce pairing trop "gentillet", si vous m'excusez l'expression, un peu plat.
C'est vrai qu'a la limite je préfererais presque plus un Sasu/naru, parce que ça c'est une combinaison explosive, et plus complexe tu meurs. Enfin bon c'est mes gouts ^^.
Et Saku/Naru... J'ai beau essayer je n'arrive vraiment pas à les voir ensemble. Même s'ils faisaient l'essais je pense que ça ne marcherait pas, c'est juste un couple... qui ne fonctionnerait pas je crois. Une relation très forte d'amitié, et même d'amour, oui, mais dans le sens fraternel du terme.
Par contre j'ai un petit faible pour Sakura/Lee... la force de la jeunesse serait avec ces deux là j'en suis sûre ^^ :D
et puis tout mes voeux aussi :D
C'est vrai qu'a la limite je préfererais presque plus un Sasu/naru, parce que ça c'est une combinaison explosive, et plus complexe tu meurs. Enfin bon c'est mes gouts ^^.
Et Saku/Naru... J'ai beau essayer je n'arrive vraiment pas à les voir ensemble. Même s'ils faisaient l'essais je pense que ça ne marcherait pas, c'est juste un couple... qui ne fonctionnerait pas je crois. Une relation très forte d'amitié, et même d'amour, oui, mais dans le sens fraternel du terme.
Par contre j'ai un petit faible pour Sakura/Lee... la force de la jeunesse serait avec ces deux là j'en suis sûre ^^ :D
et puis tout mes voeux aussi :D
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Mais tais-toi, malheureuse; tu vas finir par aiguiser l'imagination des plus pervers... Ou des plus dérangés, c'est selon XD. Brr.Moi je dis: Orochimaru/Tonton...

Comme punching-ball, je dit pas non, comme petit ami maintenant... Heu... Non. Franchement.Sakura, moi je crois qu'elle irait bien avec Sai, parce qu'il est encore plus mystérieux que Sasuke et que Sakura, tout ce que son petit cerveau ne comprend pas, elle admire...
Remarque, dans le cas d'un Naru/saku, on aurai les deux, en fin de compte... XD.
Smog, boutade pour la route.
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Regarde bien le scan ou elle demande le noms des dessins de Sai, tu verras... Elle est attirée... Enfin je dis ca surtout en me basant sur l'image où Sakura dit qu'elle va peut-être le taper...
Je pesiste et signe pour le tonton orochimaru (ca ferait un beau miaouw miaouw tactics...)
Je pesiste et signe pour le tonton orochimaru (ca ferait un beau miaouw miaouw tactics...)
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J'ai trouvé un article parlant des fan fictions. Je l'ai trouvé étonnament complet et bien écrit. Je vous met le lien, refusant de copier coller honteusement cette article.
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fanfiction
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fanfiction

En effet, très bel article... clair, net, et tout et tout...
J'en ai pas mal qui peuvent être interessants, mais ils sont en anglais, et tout ce qu'il ya a dedant ne doit pas être pris pour argent conptant évidement...
Dans la FAQ de http://www.gwaddiction.com/ il y a tout plein d'essais écrits par des fanfiqueurs pours d'autres fanfiqueurs. (désolé, mais pas de possibilité de lien direct...)
Il y a nottament :
- Un article sur les béta-reader, comment en trouver un bon et que faut il faire pour le garder
-un article sur le fleurissage excessif de la prose
- Un article sur les mary-sue
... et quelques autres, (dont l'exemple du lemon à ne pas écrire, très drole), et surtout un article qur les méffais du fanisme, que je ne résiste pas à l'envie de vous livrer. Il est sur Gundam wing, mais les trois quarts des trucs sont tout à fait pertinents... ^^ (ça fait peur... OH MON DIEU JE SUIS CONTAMIMEE !!!!! HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Once a relatively rare disorder, Gundam Wing Fan-Fiction Addiction, or GWFFA, has risen to new levels due to the ease of accessibility of Internet mail lists, extensive archives for fan fiction, and the rapid increase of personal and author-driven websites. The number of Gundam Wing fan-fiction addicts is currently at record levels.
Abusers become withdrawn, uninterested in society or normal relationships. They fantasize, living in or creating alternative worlds to occupy, to the neglect of friends, family, work, school, and the slowly dying plants in the living room. They spend hours debating assorted and sundry relationship pairings, merits of different styles of writing, and favorite rants. They trade website URLs, prowl through thousands of links, read recommendation pages, and buy doujinshi with funds previously reserved for college tuition or next month's car payment.
Self-test for GWFFA: How many of these apply to you?
1) You read fan fiction when depressed to cheer yourself up.
2) You go on reading binges where you read all day or night.
3) You read early in the morning, before school or work.
4) You print stories to carry around so you can continue to read when off-line.
5) You avoid friends or family obligations in order to read fan fiction.
6) You take vacation or sick days from school or work and spend the day catching up on mailing lists or reading through archives.
7) At a party or when you have company in your home, you often slip off unnoticed to read or check the latest post to your lists.
8) Reading has made you seek places and companions that you would otherwise avoid.
9) You neglect personal hygiene or household chores until you finish a story.
10) You spend money meant for necessities on a faster modem or cable connection instead.
11) You attempt to circumvent a password-protected site to read the fiction archived there.
12) You start your own website, recommendation list, email list, or archive.
13) Most of your friends are heavy fan-fiction readers.
14) You instantly recognize the pen names and email addresses of more than eighty percent of your best friends (and have no idea what their real names are, where they live, or how old they may be - and it doesn't affect your friendship in any way).
15) You have broken down emotionally while reading a story and had to explain to friends, family, or co-workers why you were crying.
16) You wept or become angry or irrational because of something you read on a list.
17) You sometimes wish you did not read so much.
18) Sometimes you think your fiction reading is out of control.
19) Lime, lemon, citrus, and enough lumber dimensions to confuse the guy at Home Depot (1x2/3x4/2x4x6) - if it all makes sense to you - you've been reading too much fan fiction.
20) You have joined author lists or written to authors to solicit more material.
21) You commission artwork to match the stories you read.
22) You go on vacation and haul the computer along - or you leave it behind and need to take an equal number of days off after your vacation to catch up on your reading.
23) You have Pocky or Gummy candy on your desk to enhance your reading experience and keep you focused and awake.
24) You play the soundtracks from the series in the background for the same reason.
25) You watched both subbed and dubbed versions of the series to better understand the fiction you read.
26) You know enough Japanese to understand the occasional words that crop up in fan fiction, you can watch the series without reading the subtitles, and you're thinking about learning enough Kanji to finally be able to read your doujinshi.
27) Email just isn't fast enough. You start to lounge in chatrooms to discuss fan fiction or call friends directly.
(Is your monthly long-distance phone bill over $100? - take an extra point.)
If you answered "yes" to three or more of these questions, you have symptoms of GWFFA. An affirmative response to five or more indicates a serious problem.
**Related Disorder #1: The Gundam Wing Fan-Fiction Author**
Within the sordid world of fan fiction addiction, the lowest circle belongs to those sufferers who have thrown their lives and hopes away to actually write the stuff (you know who you are). These poor wretched souls while away endless hours in front of their keyboards composing grand epics involving cartoon characters ranging in age from 15 to 20 - many involving risqué and outlandish behaviors.
**Related Disorder #2: The Gundam Wing Fan-Fiction Artist**
This is usually a milder form of the addiction. Artists typically have more of their lives based in reality than authors do. But they still spend countless hours sketching characters along the borders of whatever page they happen to have in front of them, or scanning and applying Photoshop filters to their best advantage. If you have a room dedicated as a Gundam Wing studio, or purchased a faster computer to run more advanced software, you are in danger of sliding into the GWFFA abyss. If you have hit the point where commission sales require you to submit a tax return - consider yourself beyond all redemption.
**Related Disorder #3: The Gundam Wing Doujinshi Collector**
The second lowest circle belongs to those who scrounge the Internet auction sites and have to download new character sets into their browsers to view pages in Japanese. They do this so they can fulfill their uncontrollable urge to spend vast amounts of cash to purchase foreign money orders and have comic and art books shipped to them from all over the world. They store their prizes in a box or cabinet that is hidden under their bed so their parents/spouse/roommate can't find them. And if they're lucky, they'll never have to explain to someone why they spent hundreds of dollars on books that they will never be able to read. So if your current collection numbers more than twenty, if "circle" means something to you and you can name more than five of them, and you collect by the pairings - you qualify as a serious case.
**Related Disorder #4: The Creator Of Websites**
These poor souls spend endless hours running the same queries through different search engines in the pursuit of new and interesting authors to archive or websites to link to. They learned the essentials of HTML and dedicate the vast majority of their free and not-so-free time constantly updating, correcting, and searching for new and better material to add to their sites. If you maintain more than one site, or if you have your own GW-related domain name - you probably have no life outside of the fandom.
You may be dealing with a life-threatening problem if one or more of the following applies:
You named your child, pet, car, or other significant inanimate objects after a character in the series.
All of your personal passwords are Gundam Wing related.
You start to dress as your favorite character.
Your family/friends/co-workers know a fair bit about Gundam Wing and perhaps even some of your favorite authors and Internet friends - and they've never watched the series.
You travel great distances, use all of your available vacation/sick time, and outlay great sums of cash just for the simple opportunity to meet favorite authors, artists, close Internet friends, and drop huge wads of cash on doujinshi you never knew existed at the regional anime conventions.
For partners, parents, and friends of the afflicted:
Talk to the GWFFA victim in a loving and supportive manner. Let them see that you are concerned for their well being. However, you are not going to send them to Japan or to enroll them in the regional anime club as this may escalate the affliction or increase the intensity of the symptoms.
Face the issue. Tell them what you know, and how: "I found this comic book with pictures of naked boys hidden in the box under the rollerblades in the upstairs guest bedroom. How long has this been going on?"
Try to show your support in another way. Do your level best to interest them in a less-popular fandom or in a (gasp) live-action series. Buy them musical instruments or a car.
Do what you have to do. Unplug the computer; cancel the Internet service; ban the purchase of any Gundam Wing-related merchandise. Destroy all the DVDs, VHS tapes, figurines, manga, doujinshi, music, posters, and assorted keychains, pins, and sundry articles with big-eyed animated faces. It will hurt them; and they might leave you - but it may be the only way to preserve that little bit of sanity they have left.
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terrible n'est ce pas ? ^^
J'en ai pas mal qui peuvent être interessants, mais ils sont en anglais, et tout ce qu'il ya a dedant ne doit pas être pris pour argent conptant évidement...
Dans la FAQ de http://www.gwaddiction.com/ il y a tout plein d'essais écrits par des fanfiqueurs pours d'autres fanfiqueurs. (désolé, mais pas de possibilité de lien direct...)
Il y a nottament :
- Un article sur les béta-reader, comment en trouver un bon et que faut il faire pour le garder
-un article sur le fleurissage excessif de la prose
- Un article sur les mary-sue
... et quelques autres, (dont l'exemple du lemon à ne pas écrire, très drole), et surtout un article qur les méffais du fanisme, que je ne résiste pas à l'envie de vous livrer. Il est sur Gundam wing, mais les trois quarts des trucs sont tout à fait pertinents... ^^ (ça fait peur... OH MON DIEU JE SUIS CONTAMIMEE !!!!! HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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Once a relatively rare disorder, Gundam Wing Fan-Fiction Addiction, or GWFFA, has risen to new levels due to the ease of accessibility of Internet mail lists, extensive archives for fan fiction, and the rapid increase of personal and author-driven websites. The number of Gundam Wing fan-fiction addicts is currently at record levels.
Abusers become withdrawn, uninterested in society or normal relationships. They fantasize, living in or creating alternative worlds to occupy, to the neglect of friends, family, work, school, and the slowly dying plants in the living room. They spend hours debating assorted and sundry relationship pairings, merits of different styles of writing, and favorite rants. They trade website URLs, prowl through thousands of links, read recommendation pages, and buy doujinshi with funds previously reserved for college tuition or next month's car payment.
Self-test for GWFFA: How many of these apply to you?
1) You read fan fiction when depressed to cheer yourself up.
2) You go on reading binges where you read all day or night.
3) You read early in the morning, before school or work.
4) You print stories to carry around so you can continue to read when off-line.
5) You avoid friends or family obligations in order to read fan fiction.
6) You take vacation or sick days from school or work and spend the day catching up on mailing lists or reading through archives.
7) At a party or when you have company in your home, you often slip off unnoticed to read or check the latest post to your lists.
8) Reading has made you seek places and companions that you would otherwise avoid.
9) You neglect personal hygiene or household chores until you finish a story.
10) You spend money meant for necessities on a faster modem or cable connection instead.
11) You attempt to circumvent a password-protected site to read the fiction archived there.
12) You start your own website, recommendation list, email list, or archive.
13) Most of your friends are heavy fan-fiction readers.
14) You instantly recognize the pen names and email addresses of more than eighty percent of your best friends (and have no idea what their real names are, where they live, or how old they may be - and it doesn't affect your friendship in any way).
15) You have broken down emotionally while reading a story and had to explain to friends, family, or co-workers why you were crying.
16) You wept or become angry or irrational because of something you read on a list.
17) You sometimes wish you did not read so much.
18) Sometimes you think your fiction reading is out of control.
19) Lime, lemon, citrus, and enough lumber dimensions to confuse the guy at Home Depot (1x2/3x4/2x4x6) - if it all makes sense to you - you've been reading too much fan fiction.
20) You have joined author lists or written to authors to solicit more material.
21) You commission artwork to match the stories you read.
22) You go on vacation and haul the computer along - or you leave it behind and need to take an equal number of days off after your vacation to catch up on your reading.
23) You have Pocky or Gummy candy on your desk to enhance your reading experience and keep you focused and awake.
24) You play the soundtracks from the series in the background for the same reason.
25) You watched both subbed and dubbed versions of the series to better understand the fiction you read.
26) You know enough Japanese to understand the occasional words that crop up in fan fiction, you can watch the series without reading the subtitles, and you're thinking about learning enough Kanji to finally be able to read your doujinshi.
27) Email just isn't fast enough. You start to lounge in chatrooms to discuss fan fiction or call friends directly.
(Is your monthly long-distance phone bill over $100? - take an extra point.)
If you answered "yes" to three or more of these questions, you have symptoms of GWFFA. An affirmative response to five or more indicates a serious problem.
**Related Disorder #1: The Gundam Wing Fan-Fiction Author**
Within the sordid world of fan fiction addiction, the lowest circle belongs to those sufferers who have thrown their lives and hopes away to actually write the stuff (you know who you are). These poor wretched souls while away endless hours in front of their keyboards composing grand epics involving cartoon characters ranging in age from 15 to 20 - many involving risqué and outlandish behaviors.
**Related Disorder #2: The Gundam Wing Fan-Fiction Artist**
This is usually a milder form of the addiction. Artists typically have more of their lives based in reality than authors do. But they still spend countless hours sketching characters along the borders of whatever page they happen to have in front of them, or scanning and applying Photoshop filters to their best advantage. If you have a room dedicated as a Gundam Wing studio, or purchased a faster computer to run more advanced software, you are in danger of sliding into the GWFFA abyss. If you have hit the point where commission sales require you to submit a tax return - consider yourself beyond all redemption.
**Related Disorder #3: The Gundam Wing Doujinshi Collector**
The second lowest circle belongs to those who scrounge the Internet auction sites and have to download new character sets into their browsers to view pages in Japanese. They do this so they can fulfill their uncontrollable urge to spend vast amounts of cash to purchase foreign money orders and have comic and art books shipped to them from all over the world. They store their prizes in a box or cabinet that is hidden under their bed so their parents/spouse/roommate can't find them. And if they're lucky, they'll never have to explain to someone why they spent hundreds of dollars on books that they will never be able to read. So if your current collection numbers more than twenty, if "circle" means something to you and you can name more than five of them, and you collect by the pairings - you qualify as a serious case.
**Related Disorder #4: The Creator Of Websites**
These poor souls spend endless hours running the same queries through different search engines in the pursuit of new and interesting authors to archive or websites to link to. They learned the essentials of HTML and dedicate the vast majority of their free and not-so-free time constantly updating, correcting, and searching for new and better material to add to their sites. If you maintain more than one site, or if you have your own GW-related domain name - you probably have no life outside of the fandom.
You may be dealing with a life-threatening problem if one or more of the following applies:
You named your child, pet, car, or other significant inanimate objects after a character in the series.
All of your personal passwords are Gundam Wing related.
You start to dress as your favorite character.
Your family/friends/co-workers know a fair bit about Gundam Wing and perhaps even some of your favorite authors and Internet friends - and they've never watched the series.
You travel great distances, use all of your available vacation/sick time, and outlay great sums of cash just for the simple opportunity to meet favorite authors, artists, close Internet friends, and drop huge wads of cash on doujinshi you never knew existed at the regional anime conventions.
For partners, parents, and friends of the afflicted:
Talk to the GWFFA victim in a loving and supportive manner. Let them see that you are concerned for their well being. However, you are not going to send them to Japan or to enroll them in the regional anime club as this may escalate the affliction or increase the intensity of the symptoms.
Face the issue. Tell them what you know, and how: "I found this comic book with pictures of naked boys hidden in the box under the rollerblades in the upstairs guest bedroom. How long has this been going on?"
Try to show your support in another way. Do your level best to interest them in a less-popular fandom or in a (gasp) live-action series. Buy them musical instruments or a car.
Do what you have to do. Unplug the computer; cancel the Internet service; ban the purchase of any Gundam Wing-related merchandise. Destroy all the DVDs, VHS tapes, figurines, manga, doujinshi, music, posters, and assorted keychains, pins, and sundry articles with big-eyed animated faces. It will hurt them; and they might leave you - but it may be the only way to preserve that little bit of sanity they have left.
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terrible n'est ce pas ? ^^
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Yeps ! Très pertinent. A propos de Gundam, j'avais aussi trouvé un truc intéressant. Y'a pas mal de truc intéressant comme comment enrichir une description etc… (en français je précise)
http://qctx.free.fr/textes/HOWTO/howtosom.htm
http://qctx.free.fr/textes/HOWTO/howtosom.htm
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Trop la flemme de lire en Anglais j'a eu ma dose d'Anglais aujourd'hui moi TT.TT
Nanarland, le monde des mauvais films sympathiques
Reflexions of fear make shadow of nothing...
Shadow of Nothing...
You're still blind if you see winding road
'cause ther's always a straight way to the point you see.
Pour arrêter le hoquet, prendre un sucre avec du vinaigre : dégueu mais efficace
Reflexions of fear make shadow of nothing...
Shadow of Nothing...
You're still blind if you see winding road
'cause ther's always a straight way to the point you see.
Pour arrêter le hoquet, prendre un sucre avec du vinaigre : dégueu mais efficace

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- Aspirant ninja
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mdr, ils exagèrent un poil quand même; y'a des gens qui ont certaines de ces activités sans pour autant être des loques humaines XD. Enfin bon, c'est sur le fandom GW, aussi... Déjà que c'est là qu'on trouve les fics les plus trash, ça serai pas étonnant que ce soit la vérité non plus XD.
Smog, le web est petit...
Tiens, il commence à être répandu, lui... stun collègue de review qui a traduit ce how to^^ (QCTX). Et rien à voir avec GW, malheureux, mais la base ce texte part plutôt sur les fics Evangelion. (et servira aussi de référence tutoriale plus tard sur fanfictions.fr, d'ailleurs.)lebidou a écrit : A propos de Gundam, j'avais aussi trouvé un truc intéressant. Y'a pas mal de truc intéressant comme comment enrichir une description etc… (en français je précise)
http://qctx.free.fr/textes/HOWTO/howtosom.htm
Smog, le web est petit...
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L'Univers et la bêtise humaine sont infinis. Pour l'Univers, je ne suis pas sûr.
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Tout a fait d'accord avec smog... Pour moi c'est un peu abusé et je ne crois pas que des gens basent leur ve sur des fanfics... Ce serait trop triste sauf s'ils trouvent que ca leur apporte quelque chose. (épanouissement personnel par exemple.)...
Dans mon cas entre deux pauses(l'unif c'est chiant), j'ai besoin de décompresser et de me retrouver sur un forum comme celui ci. D'écrire ou de lire des fics ou de lire des critiques de livres. D'alleru sur ce fofo, il y a un lien dans littérature sur Harry potter, c'est une critique qui détend les méningesun max...
Dans mon cas entre deux pauses(l'unif c'est chiant), j'ai besoin de décompresser et de me retrouver sur un forum comme celui ci. D'écrire ou de lire des fics ou de lire des critiques de livres. D'alleru sur ce fofo, il y a un lien dans littérature sur Harry potter, c'est une critique qui détend les méningesun max...
I Think I'm Dumb...(repeat)